This week, we bring you part two of our conversation with Grant Lichtman, author of Moving the Rock: Seven Levers WE Can Press to Transform Education. In today’s show, Howard and Grant explore important questions for our K-12 and higher education leaders.

Our guest today returns to share the story of his research toward his latest book and his work understanding the nature of change in education today. In Grant Lichtman’s latest book, Moving the Rock: Seven Levers WE Can Press to Transform Education, he outlines the three fundamental questions facing education today: Why should we change, what is the change going to look like, and how do we get there?

Part two in our Grant Lichtman interview picks up with the political challenges that erupt in districts across the country. In the face of these challenges are schools making the change required to live up to the promise of true innovation in education. We reflect on the shared challenges of broken business models — both in K-12 and higher education — and the responsibility leaders have in owning positive change in the classroom.

Grant Lichtman has quickly become one of the foremost thinkers and advocates for innovation in the classroom. His latest book, #EdJourney: A Roadmap to the Future of Education, documents his 3-month journey across the United States, interviewing teachers, administrators, students, parents, and trustees to examine innovation in the K-12 classroom.